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As the title says, also to be frank I do not find anything in my posts that is breaking the rules
My Deleted posts: https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=status%3Adeleted+user%3ARatcha
Most posts just said that it has been more than 3 days and only 1 approver has seen it so far and he/she didn't like it (and no other reasons shown), but I kinda think that it should not be base on just 1 approver.
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I saw one disapproval that just said 'ew' because they didn't like the subject matter (though admittedly that post could have been deleted on quality, they should give a legit reason). But the weirdest one is I have one that has been favorited by an approver yet is about to droop into deleted status without being approved!
Either way I think a post should have to be seen by at least 2 (and really 3) people before it is deleted status. I feel like when I look at the way things work here, and the people that have a lot of stuff approved by one person, that the only way to get approvals is to be buddies with an approver beforehand. It's really discouraging to be pumping out high quality stuff that you spent hours tweaking only to watch them drop off one at a time, which meanwhile things of lesser quality are getting approved that aren't even offering up their prompts get approved. Can we please at least try to be a bit more objective in our opinions?
The bottom line is that this forum has a lot of this discussion and it keeps retreading, so there is obviously something wrong here. If it is not fixed, the second a second ai booru pops up, you will lose all your users to it, and I'd rather not see the first one go down the path that I've seen so many boorus go down. Can we maybe try to get some more approvers to add to what we have? I feel like if at least 3 people can't look at something in 3 days, there aren't enough.
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The problem is that there are only 6 users with approver privilege (to be precise, only 4 approved any posts).
A possible solution could be to increase the amount of time, that post can be in Mod Queue (right now is 3 days) or grant approver privilege to more users.
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Arednel said:
The problem is that there are only 6 users with approver privilege (to be precise, only 4 approved any posts).
A possible solution could be to increase the amount of time, that post can be in Mod Queue (right now is 3 days) or grant approver privilege to more users.
While increasing the time is a legit idea, it might also compound the issue a bit. Remember that it cost 3 upload slots to appeal to discourage people from appealing, so you have to choose between uploading 3 more or appealing 1. I want to see this place grow as fast as possible with good quality art, and I don't want to risk making it more frustrating and running off good posters.
Increasing the amount of time in the modqueue means posts that aren't going to be approved will linger longer, preventing those slots being returned to the uploader. Promoting more approvers only works when there are users who are good candidates for it, have an interest in the site, and more specifically have an interest in approving. As Arednel said, two of those users never approved any posts. I don't want to promote people if they're going to approve nothing, approve bad posts, or disappear in a day.
Talulah said:
Increasing the amount of time in the modqueue means posts that aren't going to be approved will linger longer, preventing those slots being returned to the uploader. Promoting more approvers only works when there are users who are good candidates for it, have an interest in the site, and more specifically have an interest in approving. As Arednel said, two of those users never approved any posts. I don't want to promote people if they're going to approve nothing, approve bad posts, or disappear in a day.
Can we at least require a real reason? If people aren't allowed to put 'I didn't like it enough' and have to put an actual reason, they will probably approve things rather than admitting they don't like the character or something. Also, as said, I have an image that is literally favorited by someone who has the ability to approve posts that has just slid into deleted, and that doesn't make any sense at all. If the system doesn't have enough people to work, maybe you should switch to somewhere where posts are approved by default instead of disapproved, and posts are reviewed when flagged. I've already seen posts I would flag and I think that the system would weed out most if not all of the bad candidates, while also giving you and the mods a fraction of the work to do and keeping people, including good users, from being ran off.
If you have them approved by default, the bad stuff won't stay because anyone can flag it and you'll always have dozens of users looking at it. Heck I would go through all the new posts personally at the rate they are currently posted. You could even have people that agree to go through them without being given additional powers on the site itself. I myself would do that consistently because I want the site to succeed.
If users were required to give a reason, they would just not click any reaction in the modqueue. If all posts were approved by default, I would have to manually delete many things, which would have a much harsher impact on restricted users. Users who actually flag posts are a minority. This is the method Gelbooru uses and their quality control is laughable as a result.
Talulah said:
If users were required to give a reason, they would just not click any reaction in the modqueue. If all posts were approved by default, I would have to manually delete many things, which would have a much harsher impact on restricted users. Users who actually flag posts are a minority. This is the method Gelbooru uses and their quality control is laughable as a result.
It would be worth trying considering the state of things. Please consider it this way:
The biggest advantage of doing it this way is that you will know who you can trust without question: the people who are flagging posts! Then you will know who to make approvers. Once you have enough people, you can slide back into a system like this that will move efficiently because it will have enough people that having a certain character or theme won't block someone out but quality will still be very high.
In the current state of things, the people that would do the approval job best are going to be ran off, and as a result you will never find the right ones. From how you are talking, it seems you don't think you can trust the people you have and are afraid to promote new ones, so please try this as a way that you can absolutely determine who wants to see the booru grow and is willing to put in time for it. In the long run you have a far more prosperous booru that won't get drowned by the inevitable rush of other AI boorus and won't create more competition by frustrating good users.
Talulah said:
If users were required to give a reason, they would just not click any reaction in the modqueue.
If an explanation is not given, then it is impossible for someone to see what was wrong with their post. Trying to mold the posted images to fit a certain style of a board is great. But if posters have no feedback, then it is impossible for them to correct their behavior to fit the mold. This only ends up increasing the burden on approvers, as they will feel that they must sort through even more "junk" that needs to be tossed out.
