Ratcha said:
From what I can recap here. The problem is that there is not many approvers to approve everything in the 3 days timespan. And they are not thinking of giving people approver role (yet) as they want to keep this 'Quality control' to be fair and balanced and to not be bias. While people thinks that the quality control can not be easily put into bias as most of the criteria are fact/ something most people can agree on, (ie. nightmare fuel, imitations of real-life people) and the opinion that the approvers are biased as there are some posts that has been reviewed by only 1 or 2 approvers and has been rejected without reasoning.
The issue isn't the 72 hour time limit, honestly. I think it's just down to the availability of any given approver. For example, I work at night from 10pm - 6am, so for me when I get home I may or may not check the site as one of the first things I do. After that I'd (reasonably) probably spend a good portion of the day asleep if I didn't have a shit sleep schedule, but I check the queue around 4 ~ 7 times each day if I can help it. I don't know where everyone else is located or what their habit is with looking at the queue, but quite a few seem to be off/away by the time I'm a awake and vice-versa.
Anyway, I don't think anyone had said the approval system didn't have bias; it does. People have biases about everything, and the same goes for looking at pictures and deciding which ones you like. I feel like the only real objective metric to disapprove a post is if it breaks the rules (except if it's maybe "borderline" and I don't know for sure.) Take a this example I apply with a couple users;
- If a user has a generally good history of uploads I've approved in the past, I consider it more likely they'll continue uploading content I like, therefore the chances of their posts being approved by me increases. They may take priority for me in reviewing.
For me, it's not a "buddy" system. I don't approve stuff because I'm friends with any specific user. I don't have friends on here and I've never been convinced to approve something because someone told me I should. I only use my own judgement because that's what you're supposed to do. If I get told, "approve stuff even if you don't like it but only base your decision on whether the image is technically good or technically bad," then that's what I would do.
It's the expectation to approve what you like (just like on Danbooru, and I'm very sure, on many other booru sites), especially because if you don't like something, you're more likely to consider it bad. That's the reason multiple approvers exist, because they may end up liking something someone else doesn't and it only takes 1 person to approve/undelete something, regardless of how many before them disapproved it.
Ratcha said:
- Give the privileges to approve to those who has been active regularly and has good amount of posts. Probably asks said user before if they will have time to do the approve.
I think this might be a moot point now, as Fred went out of his way to promote 5 users yesterday, all of whom were given approval privileges. This brings the number to 10 approvers now (or... 9, since keyda never approves anything), so it's more likely every post will be reviewed by at least one of them.
Ratcha said:
- Make an upvotes system like in most subreddit for post that are not approved, maybe make the buttons bigger and change the 'This post has not been approved' banner to 'Upvote if you think this post belong to the site' but takes this as a grain of salt as I rarely use Reddit.
I really don't like this idea, mainly because in my experience with using that site most users on Reddit don't use that system to upvote "relevant" content and downvote "irrelevant" content as it was designed for. It's frequently used in most subreddits as a popularity system to upvote agreed upon thoughts, comments, and general statements about something and disagreement/dissent is buried. It's the side effect of many subreddits admittedly becoming very insular echo-chamers, but I feel like it would be too ripe for abuse.
Ratcha said:
- Allow approver to approve deleted posts (if thats possible) since most of them are just expired because approvers didn't have time, you can make a new status to 'expired' or something so that it is separated from the deleted pile.
Approvers already have this ability. They can delete, undelete, ban, and unban posts, I believe. You would have to go through the deleted posts and go undelete whatever ones are desired, and I've done so on occasion.